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  • Re: Movie News: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

    Poor Turtles. Not does a thread about them get created in the Off-Topic forum, but then it turns into a discussion of GotG.
  • Re: (The) Multiversity - FINALLY!

    Finally got to read it tonight, and I loved it. It is definitely wacky Morrison, but I feel like the premise of the book actually makes his vibe make sense and work for the story. Reis' work is beautiful, and I love the way that the gathering of multiversal characters (as well as the "demons" they are against-- and I think the guess that they all started out as monitors is right) let Reis and Morrison cut loose with an abundance of character designs and ideas.

    Also, when I read the initial solicits, I worried that the Earth-Prime layer of the story (which is the direct address and awareness of the reader) might be too precious and gimmicky, but so far it really works. As the idea that what is real on one Earth is the fiction (often the comic books) of the other-- a DC multiverse idea that predates Morrison, I believe- really works here. I like that it makes for a kind of 'am I real/ am I being watched?' existential dread. (That is also very Grover)

    A great start and a lot of fun. I don't know or really care what this story might "mean" to the overall DCU. Partly I am not usually interested in books that way when I am reading them. Whether they are "important" or will "stick". So far, Multiversity is a fun, imaginative romp that looks great and has a lot of fun versions of characters, and playful ideas. Sold. I don't need it to be any more "important" than that.
  • Re: Guardians of the Galaxy (Complete Movie Thread-- Now With Spoilers)

    In Guardians there was beat that was to do with evacuating the city, as well as a whole sequence in the climax about Rocket and the pirates working WITH the Nova Corp to defend the city. And we were meant to believe the city was evacuated by the time the ship crashed. Now, sure, it is actually ridiculous to believe the city COULD be evacuated that fast. But but making a point of it, they gave us permission to believe that.


    After years of war with Kree, is it so hard to believe that the city would have a high-tech, high-speed city evacuation system and that the citizens would be well-drilled in its use?


    SOMEBODY is looking for a No Prize.


    We're not talking a modern-day Earth metropolis here.

    If they have the foresight to develop an all-fighters-gang-up-and-make-a-giant-energy-web/cage-thing just in case bad guy mustn't touch the planet, does really efficient civil defense seem so far out?
    We didn't see that, but I think that is fair to imagine.

    I didn't say you weren't getting the No-Prize ;)
  • Re: Guardians of the Galaxy (Complete Movie Thread-- Now With Spoilers)

    In Guardians there was beat that was to do with evacuating the city, as well as a whole sequence in the climax about Rocket and the pirates working WITH the Nova Corp to defend the city. And we were meant to believe the city was evacuated by the time the ship crashed. Now, sure, it is actually ridiculous to believe the city COULD be evacuated that fast. But but making a point of it, they gave us permission to believe that.


    After years of war with Kree, is it so hard to believe that the city would have a high-tech, high-speed city evacuation system and that the citizens would be well-drilled in its use?
    SOMEBODY is looking for a No Prize.
  • Re: Guardians of the Galaxy (Complete Movie Thread-- Now With Spoilers)

    Didn't like seeing yet another huge spaceship slam into a heavily populated city.


    An explicitly evacuated city.


    How about the running gun battle through the very much unevavuated Nowhere? Ok since it was Mos Eisley in a Celestial a Skull?


    Here's what you need to know. No one cares about violence in Marvel movies. Not sure if its the humor or the bright colors, but one or both of those things means they can have people dying left and right and most people go "huh? what violence?"
    I think this actually speaks to is the success of the tone they struck in those Marvel movies. Sure, there is a lot of violence and destruction, and that is not to be discounted. But the are also mindful of showing the heroes trying to avoid that, or save people. Sometimes, for better or for worse as a culture, those are the things that allow viewers to not be as concerned about the cartoon violence they are seeing. Not because they don't see it, but because they feel like the characters who they are supposed to be on the side of in the fictional crisis they are watching are not themselves blase about the fictional people in peril.

    I think it is something Marvel movies have succeeded in being mindful about. And it doesn't take much-- a few minutes, or even seconds, spent showing that the heroes care about the civilians go a long way. Some that come to mind off the top of my head:

    In Guardians there was beat that was to do with evacuating the city, as well as a whole sequence in the climax about Rocket and the pirates working WITH the Nova Corp to defend the city. And we were meant to believe the city was evacuated by the time the ship crashed. Now, sure, it is actually ridiculous to believe the city COULD be evacuated that fast. But but making a point of it, they gave us permission to believe that.

    In Iron Man 2, Tony and Rhodey lead the drones away from the fair where the people are into that empty arboretum to fight them there.

    In Avengers, when they are dividing the labor, I am pretty sure there is a moment where, I think it is Hawkeye and Black Widow, are tasked with saving people while the others fight the aliens. Plus Iron Man's would be sacrifice is all about taking the danger away from the people. And throughout the climactic battle the film even tracks the experience of a civilian- the waitress in the restaurant across from Grand Central- to give a perspective of what it was like to be caught in the middle of that, and be SAVED by the Avengers.

    In Winter Soldier they evacuate the headquarters, even see a shot of people running out of the buliding, before the helicarrier comes down.

    I think that those sorts of things make the violence and big moments of destruction seem lighter in tone than they are in some other movies, because it seems like the heroes (and, to some extent, the filmmakers) are trying to make us feel like things aren't as bad for the civilians as it could be. Now, culturally, is it better that we can have PG-13 films full of violence-with-no-blood and have a light toned movie make us feel comfortable with that? Well, that is a separate conversation. But I will agree that Marvel movies tend to get a pass on this, but I think it is because they are purposefully, and sometimes skillfully, making a tone where the casualties are low and the heroes are mindful of the little people.